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	<description>A blog with tips on product management and related topics. Written by Jeff Lash, a product manager in St. Louis, MO</description>
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		<title>By: prashant</title>
		<link>http://www.goodproductmanager.com/2008/05/20/deliver-customer-value-not-product-features/comment-page-1/#comment-18725</link>
		<dc:creator>prashant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 12:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you are doing exellent as every term is given so meaningfully.
thank you !!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you are doing exellent as every term is given so meaningfully.<br />
thank you !!</p>
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		<title>By: David Locke</title>
		<link>http://www.goodproductmanager.com/2008/05/20/deliver-customer-value-not-product-features/comment-page-1/#comment-16330</link>
		<dc:creator>David Locke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 18:13:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jacob, where is your blog for this book. That would be a better place to leave comments. 

There has been a cultural divide between the techies and the art-based application developers. As a techie, I&#039;ve said for a long time that the requirements elicitation process is broken, but it is broken as a matter of the indifference of engineering efficency as the core  value and the political filters of organizations. 

The key is recognizing functional cultures. You can do concepting all day under the execuitive sponsor paradigm and working through screens will be the end result of working through the indifference of that economic sponsor. 

Until we recognize the individual or at least the functional unit as a unit of meaning and encode that meaning and its relevance of work, we will continue to produce average functionality that leaves hidden costs in its wake. It&#039;s not a matter of whether there is joy in work, but in the cold hard truth about the cost structure inherent in averaged functionality. 

I like what I&#039;ve read so far, but if you want further comments, provide a blog for that. This isn&#039;t my blog. It just seems that centralized comments would be more focused.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jacob, where is your blog for this book. That would be a better place to leave comments. </p>
<p>There has been a cultural divide between the techies and the art-based application developers. As a techie, I&#8217;ve said for a long time that the requirements elicitation process is broken, but it is broken as a matter of the indifference of engineering efficency as the core  value and the political filters of organizations. </p>
<p>The key is recognizing functional cultures. You can do concepting all day under the execuitive sponsor paradigm and working through screens will be the end result of working through the indifference of that economic sponsor. </p>
<p>Until we recognize the individual or at least the functional unit as a unit of meaning and encode that meaning and its relevance of work, we will continue to produce average functionality that leaves hidden costs in its wake. It&#8217;s not a matter of whether there is joy in work, but in the cold hard truth about the cost structure inherent in averaged functionality. </p>
<p>I like what I&#8217;ve read so far, but if you want further comments, provide a blog for that. This isn&#8217;t my blog. It just seems that centralized comments would be more focused.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob Burghardt</title>
		<link>http://www.goodproductmanager.com/2008/05/20/deliver-customer-value-not-product-features/comment-page-1/#comment-16261</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacob Burghardt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 17:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Free CreativeCommons ebook that provides another perspective on this Product Management question:

”Working through Screens: 100 Ideas for Envisioning Powerful, Engaging, and Productive User Experiences in Knowledge Work”

View / Download online book:  http://www.FlashbulbInteraction.com/WTS.html  

Very curious to hear any thoughts that you might have on this project.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Free CreativeCommons ebook that provides another perspective on this Product Management question:</p>
<p>”Working through Screens: 100 Ideas for Envisioning Powerful, Engaging, and Productive User Experiences in Knowledge Work”</p>
<p>View / Download online book:  <a href="http://www.FlashbulbInteraction.com/WTS.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.FlashbulbInteraction.com/WTS.html</a>  </p>
<p>Very curious to hear any thoughts that you might have on this project.</p>
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		<title>By: 姜丝儿的祖屋 &#187; 客户要的是价值，不是功能 (转载自译言</title>
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		<dc:creator>姜丝儿的祖屋 &#187; 客户要的是价值，不是功能 (转载自译言</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 08:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: zhong335</title>
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		<dc:creator>zhong335</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 13:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chinese translation:
http://www.yeeyan.com/articles/view/zhong335/11715</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chinese translation:<br />
<a href="http://www.yeeyan.com/articles/view/zhong335/11715" rel="nofollow">http://www.yeeyan.com/articles/view/zhong335/11715</a></p>
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		<title>By: 菜兜子的blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; 客户要的是价值，不是功能</title>
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		<dc:creator>菜兜子的blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; 客户要的是价值，不是功能</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 03:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Dawn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 18:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great information and well said - good to read the similar thoughts!
Thanks,
Dawn</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great information and well said &#8211; good to read the similar thoughts!<br />
Thanks,<br />
Dawn</p>
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		<title>By: David Locke</title>
		<link>http://www.goodproductmanager.com/2008/05/20/deliver-customer-value-not-product-features/comment-page-1/#comment-8808</link>
		<dc:creator>David Locke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no such thing as an established offering. A market is a fixed commodity that is consumed by sales. It is also a deaveraged market with certain known structural divisions, each having their own definition of fitness. As your market is consumed, your offering must change. 

Tick, tick, tick....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no such thing as an established offering. A market is a fixed commodity that is consumed by sales. It is also a deaveraged market with certain known structural divisions, each having their own definition of fitness. As your market is consumed, your offering must change. </p>
<p>Tick, tick, tick&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: David Locke</title>
		<link>http://www.goodproductmanager.com/2008/05/20/deliver-customer-value-not-product-features/comment-page-1/#comment-8807</link>
		<dc:creator>David Locke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The cell phone industry is about churn.  The software industry, even SaaS is about retention. 

In an existing category, you have choices in regards to how you will fight price-based competition in the late market. You should make those choices before you enter the late market. 

If you are going to sublimate your interface, you should build in the model-view controller pattern facilitation as early as possible. If you are going to move to mass customization, then you need a view-population pattern facilitating architecture. If you are going to die by price competition, then you need to have a discontinous technology coming down you pipeline before you consume 50% of your market cap. Late market, the price-based competition and consumer/non-geek market is a deaveraged market on the B2B side, and one-to-one marketing is about deaveraging even the most average market around. 

As for Ford, they have probably moved to XM radio or some such. If I have to pay extra to hear music in my car, I won&#039;t. Somewhere under the decision to remove FM radio is a strategy. 

Cell phones companies are pushing texting as a way for them to make money, so I get a lot of free text messages to get me used to them. Your feature set serves multiple strategy constituents. 

Over time features become commodities. If those features are playing gates, as in to be in the market you must provide that feature, then leave it in. Otherwise, it is not providing value, revenune, or profit, so it is time to take it out. 

Taking things out means having a technical  architecture that lets you get that done. 

Another example was Macromedia. They had a framework that spanned all their applications. When they M&amp;Aed, they took the application catelog of that company and put it on their platform. This led to the demise of features, but always improved the product.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The cell phone industry is about churn.  The software industry, even SaaS is about retention. </p>
<p>In an existing category, you have choices in regards to how you will fight price-based competition in the late market. You should make those choices before you enter the late market. </p>
<p>If you are going to sublimate your interface, you should build in the model-view controller pattern facilitation as early as possible. If you are going to move to mass customization, then you need a view-population pattern facilitating architecture. If you are going to die by price competition, then you need to have a discontinous technology coming down you pipeline before you consume 50% of your market cap. Late market, the price-based competition and consumer/non-geek market is a deaveraged market on the B2B side, and one-to-one marketing is about deaveraging even the most average market around. </p>
<p>As for Ford, they have probably moved to XM radio or some such. If I have to pay extra to hear music in my car, I won&#8217;t. Somewhere under the decision to remove FM radio is a strategy. </p>
<p>Cell phones companies are pushing texting as a way for them to make money, so I get a lot of free text messages to get me used to them. Your feature set serves multiple strategy constituents. </p>
<p>Over time features become commodities. If those features are playing gates, as in to be in the market you must provide that feature, then leave it in. Otherwise, it is not providing value, revenune, or profit, so it is time to take it out. </p>
<p>Taking things out means having a technical  architecture that lets you get that done. </p>
<p>Another example was Macromedia. They had a framework that spanned all their applications. When they M&amp;Aed, they took the application catelog of that company and put it on their platform. This led to the demise of features, but always improved the product.</p>
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		<title>By: Mans Shapshak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mans Shapshak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 07:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting.
I think that the realization in technology is once a  feature of a mass produced product has been implemented the costs are minimal to keep it in.

For strategic reasons product features are redistributed or repackaged to drive different market segments as you mentioned.
 
And then on the other hand in custom projects where there the maintenance costs of features and the removal of risdual bugs and design flaws can still be  a high cost features may be removed that are not working so well.   I have removed functionality  from custom products only to have customer complaints.  Our judgemenet was that the cost of the features was higher than the overall benefit.

What I couldnt think of was a mass produced market product in the same segment that has lost a feature.  And if it happened why?  The Ipod nano will no longer have podcast or playlist playback ability?  The ford focus will no longer offer an FM radio option.  

On the other hand this is really only interesting for established product offerings.  In the mobile phone industry for example nobody really even thinks of a model or funcions.  The AZ3423 will have Mp3 and the TH234TF Flip will not.  The exception being Apple but probably only because they are so new to the game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting.<br />
I think that the realization in technology is once a  feature of a mass produced product has been implemented the costs are minimal to keep it in.</p>
<p>For strategic reasons product features are redistributed or repackaged to drive different market segments as you mentioned.</p>
<p>And then on the other hand in custom projects where there the maintenance costs of features and the removal of risdual bugs and design flaws can still be  a high cost features may be removed that are not working so well.   I have removed functionality  from custom products only to have customer complaints.  Our judgemenet was that the cost of the features was higher than the overall benefit.</p>
<p>What I couldnt think of was a mass produced market product in the same segment that has lost a feature.  And if it happened why?  The Ipod nano will no longer have podcast or playlist playback ability?  The ford focus will no longer offer an FM radio option.  </p>
<p>On the other hand this is really only interesting for established product offerings.  In the mobile phone industry for example nobody really even thinks of a model or funcions.  The AZ3423 will have Mp3 and the TH234TF Flip will not.  The exception being Apple but probably only because they are so new to the game.</p>
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		<title>By: David Locke</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Locke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 06:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adobe removed a ton of features from Photoshop when it created a version specifically for the late mainstream market. They gave this product a new name. The features removed where those that served the technical enthusiasts. Removing the features required that smart defaults substitute for customization controls. The same capabilities were delivered. Customization controls were eliminated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adobe removed a ton of features from Photoshop when it created a version specifically for the late mainstream market. They gave this product a new name. The features removed where those that served the technical enthusiasts. Removing the features required that smart defaults substitute for customization controls. The same capabilities were delivered. Customization controls were eliminated.</p>
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		<title>By: Mans Shapshak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mans Shapshak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great write up!!

Remove a feature?  Wow!  Cant think fo any IT or physical product where we actually have seen a product lose a feature.  Most of times we have had that happen in our IT products the users end up punishing us!!

Best Regards,
Mans Shapshak</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great write up!!</p>
<p>Remove a feature?  Wow!  Cant think fo any IT or physical product where we actually have seen a product lose a feature.  Most of times we have had that happen in our IT products the users end up punishing us!!</p>
<p>Best Regards,<br />
Mans Shapshak</p>
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		<title>By: Rasha Abu Shama'a</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rasha Abu Shama'a</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 07:27:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great and very true post! I translated it to Arabic and posted it in my blog if this is ok?

This is the link to the translated post:

http://rashaas.jeeran.com/Techno/archive/2008/6/586232.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great and very true post! I translated it to Arabic and posted it in my blog if this is ok?</p>
<p>This is the link to the translated post:</p>
<p><a href="http://rashaas.jeeran.com/Techno/archive/2008/6/586232.html" rel="nofollow">http://rashaas.jeeran.com/Techno/archive/2008/6/586232.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Usability Counts &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Consultant Thursdays: It&#8217;s Sometimes A Lot Of Small Things Instead Of A Big Thing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Usability Counts &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Consultant Thursdays: It&#8217;s Sometimes A Lot Of Small Things Instead Of A Big Thing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 23:28:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Sadiq Bashaw</title>
		<link>http://www.goodproductmanager.com/2008/05/20/deliver-customer-value-not-product-features/comment-page-1/#comment-8627</link>
		<dc:creator>Sadiq Bashaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 11:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The information which i got from this website is wonderful. Its very useful for new company developlement and the up coming stars. Very recently came to know about this website. Thanks to google.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The information which i got from this website is wonderful. Its very useful for new company developlement and the up coming stars. Very recently came to know about this website. Thanks to google.</p>
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		<title>By: Amar Rama</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amar Rama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 20:18:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice message Jeff :-) I rode your coat tails once again since your post inspired me to write one of my own on this topic. I appreciate the inspiration!
:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice message Jeff <img src='http://www.goodproductmanager.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  I rode your coat tails once again since your post inspired me to write one of my own on this topic. I appreciate the inspiration!<br />
 <img src='http://www.goodproductmanager.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Charl Asuit</title>
		<link>http://www.goodproductmanager.com/2008/05/20/deliver-customer-value-not-product-features/comment-page-1/#comment-8579</link>
		<dc:creator>Charl Asuit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 14:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello. I just recently discovered your blog and upon reading the few posts, I&#039;m quite sure that I will be coming back for more tips. Whilst my work is in pre-sales, I am currently working on &quot;launching&quot; an existing product but for a new market.

I agree with this particular post because even if the product is full of features, they may not really address the client&#039;s needs and issues. It is far better to tell them how your product solves their problems instead of bombarding them with features and functions that they may never use ever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello. I just recently discovered your blog and upon reading the few posts, I&#8217;m quite sure that I will be coming back for more tips. Whilst my work is in pre-sales, I am currently working on &#8220;launching&#8221; an existing product but for a new market.</p>
<p>I agree with this particular post because even if the product is full of features, they may not really address the client&#8217;s needs and issues. It is far better to tell them how your product solves their problems instead of bombarding them with features and functions that they may never use ever.</p>
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		<title>By: masum</title>
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		<dc:creator>masum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 05:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pls send me this types of topics by maill. sweet kiss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pls send me this types of topics by maill. sweet kiss.</p>
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		<title>By: Sachendra Yadav</title>
		<link>http://www.goodproductmanager.com/2008/05/20/deliver-customer-value-not-product-features/comment-page-1/#comment-8570</link>
		<dc:creator>Sachendra Yadav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 02:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You bring up an excellent point. The success of iPod and iPhone reinforces the need to focus on the experience you want to create, and build a system that gets you there.

I recently blogged about the need to Design for User &quot;Delight&quot;
http://sachendra.wordpress.com/2008/05/22/design-for-user-delight/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You bring up an excellent point. The success of iPod and iPhone reinforces the need to focus on the experience you want to create, and build a system that gets you there.</p>
<p>I recently blogged about the need to Design for User &#8220;Delight&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://sachendra.wordpress.com/2008/05/22/design-for-user-delight/" rel="nofollow">http://sachendra.wordpress.com/2008/05/22/design-for-user-delight/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Gopal Shenoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gopal Shenoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 15:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff,

Excellent post. We had this saying that release planning was more about what things not to do than what things to do. 

Coincidentally, I just blogged about an article  on Business Week where they talked to Chris Hacker at J&amp;J. 

Check it out at 
http://productmanagementtips.com/2008/05/22/customermotivation/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff,</p>
<p>Excellent post. We had this saying that release planning was more about what things not to do than what things to do. </p>
<p>Coincidentally, I just blogged about an article  on Business Week where they talked to Chris Hacker at J&amp;J. </p>
<p>Check it out at<br />
<a href="http://productmanagementtips.com/2008/05/22/customermotivation/" rel="nofollow">http://productmanagementtips.com/2008/05/22/customermotivation/</a></p>
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